Butters 0 #1 March 28, 2008 Do you believe that it is acceptable for atheists to be angry considering the amount of religious persecution that has occurred over history?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 March 28, 2008 Being angry about anything that happened in the past, is wasted energy. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #3 March 28, 2008 Any time anger is unacceptable, there is a problem. And it goes both ways. As I am sure you'll admit, there are plenty of atheists that take things too far, i.e., trying to ban even the mention of religion by anyone n a public setting. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #4 March 28, 2008 QuoteBeing angry about anything that happened in the past, is wasted energy. Correct, but doing something about it is productive. I think we need a worldwide reparations program to offset their tragedy and loss. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 March 28, 2008 My great.. great... great..etc... granpappy was taken slave by the Vikings so them damned Volvo driving, IKea loving Scandinavians owe me big time £££££££££ (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 March 28, 2008 <> Fixed it. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #7 March 28, 2008 Why should atheists deserve anything special? I think *everyone* should be ashamed of the amount of religous persecution that has previously occurred and angry about all of it that happens today. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 March 28, 2008 I don't completely agree. I don't feel at all ashamed for anything that I did not do and had no influence over. I'm not guilty so have no shame attached. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #9 March 28, 2008 QuoteWhy should atheists deserve anything special? I think *everyone* should be ashamed of the amount of religous persecution that has previously occurred and angry about all of it that happens today. Blues, Dave Do you believe that black Americans deserve anything special?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 March 28, 2008 Quote<> Fixed it. There's the point. I stated that it goes both ways. There are extremists on both sides and I abhor them regardless of what side I'm on. You've got Bible-thumpers who believe that nobody should be allowed to do certain things, even in the privacy of their homes. These are extremists whom I believe are not indicative of the vast majority of those with religious beliefs and practices, any more than Islamic terrorists are indicative of the vast majority of Muslims. On the other hand, you've got the hardcore atheists who believe that nobody should be allowed to practice their religions. Like Bible-thumpers hating sinners, these atheists hate the "idiots." Both sides have people on the extremes attempting to foist their viewpoints on others. You made the point. Extremists on both sides exist. I'm not selective as to which side I find repugnant. I find them both that way. For every Pat Robertson - bothered by every possible sin out there - there are thousands of Steveorinos who counsel those who ask for his counsel and proselytize nobody - except when asked. For every Michael Newdow there are thousands of others who don't see "In God we Trust" being printed on US Currency as being comparable to Jim Crow segregation laws. I see little difference between Newdow and Robertson. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 March 28, 2008 QuoteI don't completely agree. I don't feel at all ashamed for anything that I did not do and had no influence over. I'm not guilty so have no shame attached. I likewise have no "guilt" or "shame" about that in which I did not participate. Nevertheless, I do look back at history with sadness and hope that we all do - thus to prevent the re-occurrence of the problems to the extent practicable. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 March 28, 2008 I [hopefully] don't fall into the extremist camp. I don't much like extremists of any flavour. I do however fit in the middle of the piss taking idiot camp. Not bright enough to form a coherent, balanced argument, I [attempt to] use humour to cover my failings. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #13 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhy should atheists deserve anything special? I think *everyone* should be ashamed of the amount of religous persecution that has previously occurred and angry about all of it that happens today. Blues, Dave Do you believe that black Americans deserve anything special? That was exactly what I was thinking right from the first word I read... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteI don't completely agree. I don't feel at all ashamed for anything that I did not do and had no influence over. I'm not guilty so have no shame attached. I likewise have no "guilt" or "shame" about that in which I did not participate. Nevertheless, I do look back at history with sadness and hope that we all do - thus to prevent the re-occurrence of the problems to the extent practicable. 100% agree and can only hope that history does not repeat it self..... again. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #15 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhy should atheists deserve anything special? I think *everyone* should be ashamed of the amount of religous persecution that has previously occurred and angry about all of it that happens today. Blues, Dave Do you believe that black Americans deserve anything special? Nope. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #16 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteI don't completely agree. I don't feel at all ashamed for anything that I did not do and had no influence over. I'm not guilty so have no shame attached. I likewise have no "guilt" or "shame" about that in which I did not participate. Nevertheless, I do look back at history with sadness and hope that we all do - thus to prevent the re-occurrence of the problems to the extent practicable. I suppose "shame" was a rather strong word. We, as a species, have done some very bad things, and I think we should acknowledge our collective mistakes and try to avoid them in the present and future. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #17 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't completely agree. I don't feel at all ashamed for anything that I did not do and had no influence over. I'm not guilty so have no shame attached. I likewise have no "guilt" or "shame" about that in which I did not participate. Nevertheless, I do look back at history with sadness and hope that we all do - thus to prevent the re-occurrence of the problems to the extent practicable. 100% agree and can only hope that history does not repeat it self..... again. One of my teachers said this once: The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #18 March 28, 2008 Wish I had gotten into this earlier but I predict the poll will come out roughly 10% to 90%; that is to say, roughly the percentage of those people that identify themselves as not being part of any religion to those that do.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #19 March 28, 2008 I would disagree. I am atheist and I voted for no. I think it is not helpful to be angry about anybody that didn't do anything to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #20 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuote<> Fixed it. There's the point. I stated that it goes both ways. There are extremists on both sides and I abhor them regardless of what side I'm on. You've got Bible-thumpers who believe that nobody should be allowed to do certain things, even in the privacy of their homes. These are extremists whom I believe are not indicative of the vast majority of those with religious beliefs and practices, any more than Islamic terrorists are indicative of the vast majority of Muslims. On the other hand, you've got the hardcore atheists who believe that nobody should be allowed to practice their religions. Like Bible-thumpers hating sinners, these atheists hate the "idiots." Both sides have people on the extremes attempting to foist their viewpoints on others. You made the point. Extremists on both sides exist. I'm not selective as to which side I find repugnant. I find them both that way. For every Pat Robertson - bothered by every possible sin out there - there are thousands of Steveorinos who counsel those who ask for his counsel and proselytize nobody - except when asked. For every Michael Newdow there are thousands of others who don't see "In God we Trust" being printed on US Currency as being comparable to Jim Crow segregation laws. I see little difference between Newdow and Robertson. Well there is this one little difference, Newdow is trying to use the Courts to push his dislike for God and all things religious. Robertson uses his TV Program to push his beliefs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #21 March 28, 2008 QuoteWell there is this one little difference, Newdow is trying to use the Courts to push his dislike for God and all things religious. Robertson uses his TV Program to push his beliefs. I'm not sure if it's just worded incorrectly but that he dislikes god is a severe misconception. He does not dislike god, but he knows that he does not exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #22 March 28, 2008 Atheist is a very broad term. how about the other way around, is X acceptable or not acceptable for theists? What about people who drive colorful automobiles vs grayscale automobiles? What about off-white and cream shades, do those ones count as grayscale or colorful? It's difficult to say anything for everyone who might fall into one category or another. Let's call the whole thing off.My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPiggie 0 #23 March 28, 2008 QuoteDo you believe that it is acceptable for atheists to be angry? When someone tells me I'm going to hell, or that I'm an evil person, because I don't believe in god; yes. Although depending upon my mood, I might also just consider it humorous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #24 March 28, 2008 QuoteDo you believe that black Americans deserve anything special? I do, in the form of EEO laws. Blacks were beat down for ~400 years in this country, and STILL are in certain ways despite all the right laws being in place. I believe EEO is justified and has been very useful, though I'm hoping we'll not need it for too many more years. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #25 March 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteBeing angry about anything that happened in the past, is wasted energy. Correct, but doing something about it is productive.I'm not sure that actions taken in anger are ever very productive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
